18 September, 2008

RAF - Baader-Meinhof Gang THE MOVIE


  • The RAF was ANTI VIETNAM WAR and the USA empire was in command of the German media and politics.
  • The german police shot Petra Schelm, Georg von Rauch, Thomas Weisbecker, Werner Sauber, Willi-Peter Stoll and Elisabeth van Dyck. They were accused of being RAF. The police -- in their CIA / Ex-Nazi / high-finance-elite directed frenzy -- also killed INNOCENT, unconnected people like Richard Epple, Günther Jendrian, Jan McLeod, Helmut Schlaudraff and Man­fred Perder.
  • There was NO THIRD GENERATION of RAF. Herrhausen, Rohwedder, von Braunmühl were NOT murdered by the RAF. The motive points to secret service agents. CIA Mossad etc. There is NO EVIDENCE to connect RAF to these horrendous crimes.
  • The RAF was politically VERY USEFUL to justify repression and all kinds of right-wing machinations! Please read about OPERATION GLADIO!!
  • The movie does NOT tell the whole truth!! They were murdered in prison!!
  • The RAF were NOT terrorists as much as the USA, NED, CIA, Mossad, ISI and NATO stay behind GLADIO killers. The RAF did not kill random civilians ON PURPOSE in order to CREATE TERROR!
  • The german police killed THE WRONG Ulrike Meinhof. The whole of Germany was completely hysterical about the RAF "terror". This was very useful to keep leftist parties in check. Divide and conquer!


Der Baader Meinhof Komplex (English: The Baader Meinhof Complex) is a 2008 German film directed by Uli Edel and starring Moritz Bleibtreu, Martina Gedeck and Johanna Wokalek. The film is based on the nonfiction book by Stefan Aust and retells the the early years of the West German terrorist group Red Army Faction (RAF), which was the most active and prominent terrorist group in postwar West Germany. The book and the film concentrate on the RAF from its beginnings in 1967/1968 at the time of the German student movement to the German Autumn in 1977.

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The film had its premiere on September 15, 2008 in Munich. It will be commercially released in Germany on September 25, 2008. The film was chosen as Germany's official submission to the 81st Academy Awards for Best Foreign Language Film. Michael Buback, the son of former chief federal prosecutor Siegfried Buback, who was assassinated by the RAF in 1977 doubted that the film seriously tries to expose the historical truth

Directed by Uli Edel
Produced by Bernd Eichinger
Written by Uli Edel
Bernd Eichinger
based on the book by Stefan Aust
Starring Moritz Bleibtreu
Martina Gedeck
Simon Licht
Alexandra Maria Lara
Bruno Ganz
Karoline Herfurth
Distributed by Constantin Film
Release date(s) Germany:
September 25, 2008
Running time 150 min.
Country Germany
Language German

Alexandra Maria Lara as Petra Schelm

Johanna Wokalek as Gudrun Ensslin

Hannah Herzsprung als Susanne Albrecht

Nadja Uhl as Brigitte Mohnhaupt

Martina Gedeck als Ulrike Meinhof

Moritz Bleibtreu as Andreas Baader

­ The story of Germany's fanatical Baader- Meinhof terrorists has been brought vividly to life in a new action movie which documents their crimes in gruseome detail. Unlike some previous films on the topic, the German-titled Baader- Meinhof Komplex shows members of the infamous urban guerrilla group founded by Andreas Baader and Ulrike Meinhof as brutal murderers rather than romantic desperadoes. The picture is a fast-paced account of how a band of left-wing revolutionaries caused mayhem in West Germany with a series of politically-motivated assassinations, bombings and kidnappings.

The story begins with violent student protests in Berlin in 1967 and ends in the autumn of 1977 when the hijacking of a Lufthansa airliner by like-minded Palestinians was foiled by elite German forces. Events triggered the suicide of the RAF ringleaders in Stammheim high-security prison and the murder of abducted industrialist Hanns-Martin Schleyer. Director Uli Edel said he aimed to put the record straight by focussing on the carnage and human toll of the Baader-Meinhof gang, later the Red Army Faction (RAF) whose bloody exploits claimed dozens of lives. "I deliberately put the cameras next to the victims so that we can see what they see," he told Focus magazine. He said he wanted to "destroy the myth that has grown up around the RAF."Frank Schirrmacher, editor of the respected Frankfurter Allgemeine newspaper, wrote that he found the Baader-Meinhof Komplex "heartbreaking" to watch and added: "This film has the potential to make people see the RAF in an entirely new light."A VIP screening on Tuesday evening ended with several minutes of stunned silence before the audience applauded. Some critics claimed the terrorists were portrayed as being too glamorous. The film goes on general release in Germany from September 25. The makers had upset many reviewers in Germany by threatening them with a heavy fine if they released any details about the content of the film before its first showing. The 150-minute production is billed as one of the most expensive German films to date and producer Bernd Eichinger and director Edel have assembled an impressive cast. It includes Moritz Bleibtreu as a baby-faced Baader and Martina Gedeck as Ulrike Meinhof, the prim- looking radical journalists who went underground after abandoning her children in a Palestinian refugee camp. Johanna Wokalek plays Baader's girlfriend Gudrun Ensslin.

Ulrike Meinhof

Swiss actor Bruno Ganz, who starred as Nazi dictator Adolf Hitler, in the award-winning drama Downfall, is cast as Horst Herold, the top policeman who pioneered the use of computers in an unprecedented manhunt for the terrorists. Germany's film export board has nominated the movie for the February 2009 Oscars as best foreign film of the year and German judges said the work "gave a picture of the 1970s without glorifying" the terrorists. The makers warn that the film shows much bloodletting and among the most powerful scenes are those of a female terrorist plucking a machine-gun from a pram on a Cologne street before mowing down Germany's Chief Prosecutor Siegfried Buback and his bodyguards in a hail of bullets. "We have tried to make everything as authentic as possible," said Eichinger who based the film on a best-selling book of the same name by former Der Spiegel magazine editor Stefan Aust. There have been plenty of movies about Baader, Meinhof and the RAF but the militants have sometimes been portrayed as cool, leather- jacketed revolutionaries with pistols tucked into their belts.


More than 30 years after the events, young people in Germany can now flirt with terrorist chic by buying T-shirts with the RAF's trademark machine-gun emblem and there have been exhibitions about Baader and Meinhof as pop icons. Aust's book has been thoroughly revised to coincide with the release of the film but many RAF terrorists released from jail in recent years have refused to talk to him about what happened. Key documents on the era have also not been released by the German government. Christian Klar, 56, one of the most notorious RAF members, is still serving a prison sentence for multiple murder after his recent appeals for clemency were turned down. His call for mercy while showing no remorse provoked a nationwide emotional debate.


Black Box BRD - a movie by Andres Veiel

I stumbled upon this documentary when travelling through Germany this summer. It had an interesting title and a catchy poster and I had nothing better to do that night - so I went to see it. In a small, slightly over-heated, underground cinema I got to see a very touching and for me a very educational movie. I learnt about a time where things were different than today - and this time was not so long ago as it might have seemed to me before.


Till the late nineties Germany is shaken by a constant test of power between the state and the RAF (Red Army Faction). Society is torn apart - the state persecutes its critics. Wolfgang Grams and Alfred Herrhausen are symbols for the two opposing forces in a polarised society. One radicalises and goes in hiding, the other dies on the peak of his power. In 'Black Box BRD' their biographies are compared, as different as they might be.

Wolfgang Grams grows up in the sixties. And just like many from his generation he rebels against the system, his parents and the "Konsumterror". On the lookout for alternatives he gets in touch with a militant leftist group in Wiesbaden. But while his comrades one after the other turn their backs to the "revolution" he moves on. In 1984 Wolfgang Grams disappears.

Alfred Herrhausen is born in 1930. As a child he attends an NSDAP elite-school. After the war he makes a skyrocketing career. In the eighties he's on the top of the "Deutsche Bank" (German Bank) and is therefore one of western Germany's most powerful men. He combines politics with business, he's controversial, he's unorthodox. He's the "Lord of the Money" as "Der Spiegel" (German political magazine) calls him.

There's also the "other" Herrhausen. He fights for a debt relief for the third world, but has no real chance against his own bank. When he wants to radically re-organize the bank the other managers start mutiny. Herrhausen thinks of resigning. Two days later, on 30 November, 1989 he's assassinated.

At that time Wolfgang Grams has been underground for 5 years. The "wanted" posters hang in every post-office. He's thought to be member of the leading group of the third RAF generation. That generation which organized assassinations of managers, industrial executives and high-ranking officials. To the day none of these assassinations have been clarified. Grams dies in 1993 on the Bad-Kleinen train-station in an exchange of fire with the police. The official explanation is suicide. He dies betrayed by a police informer, isolated from society.

The film begins with the incident that ends Alfred Herrhausen's life. A mine explodes his armoured Mercedes on his way to work. In the following interviews with friends and relatives of both - Wolfgang Grams and Alfred Herrhausen, old news recordings and private home-videos are combined to paint an oppressive picture of a polarised country.


'Black Box BRD' asks questions. Some answers are given by Grams's parents, his brother, by Traudl Herrhausen - Alfred Herrhausen's widow. Top-manager of the "Deutsche Bank" give their viewpoints as well as Wolfgang Grams's political companions. People who up to today can't understand their opposite's point of view.

OTHER FILMS about the R.A.F.

  • 1978 – Deutschland im Herbst (D), verschiedene Kurzfilme und -Reportagen von elf Regisseuren, Regie: Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Volker Schlöndorff, Alexander Kluge, Edgar Reitz u. a.
  • 1979 – Die dritte Generation (D), Groteske, Regie: Rainer Werner Fassbinder
  • 1981 – Die bleierne Zeit (D), Spielfilm, Regie: Margarethe von Trotta
  • 1986 – Stammheim (D), Doku-Drama, Regie: Reinhard Hauff, Drehbuch: Stefan Aust
  • 1992 – Der Herbst der Terroristen (D), Spiegel TV-Doku, Regie: Stefan Aust
  • 1997 – Todesspiel (D), Doku-Drama, Regie: Heinrich Breloer
  • 1997 – Im Fadenkreuz – Deutschland & die RAF (D), fünf Dokumentarfilme von verschiedenen Regisseuren
  • 2000 – Die innere Sicherheit (D), Spielfilm, Regie: Christian Petzold
  • 2000 – Die Stille nach dem Schuss (D), Spielfilm, Regie: Volker Schlöndorff
  • 2000 – Das Phantom (D), Spielfilm, Regie: Dennis Gansel
  • 2001 – Black Box BRD (D), Dokumentarfilm, Regie: Andres Veiel
  • 2002 – Baader-Meinhof: In Love with Terror (Großbritannien), Dokumentarfilm, Regie: Ben Lewis
  • 2002 – Baader (D), Spielfilm, Regie: Christopher Roth
  • 2003 – Starbuck Holger Meins (D), Dokumentarfilm, Regie: Gerd Conradt
  • 2003 – Stockholm 75 (Schweden), Dokumentarfilm, Regie: David Aronowitsch
  • 2003 – Andreas Baader – Der Staatsfeind (D), Dokumentarfilm, Regie: Klaus Stern
  • 2005 – Ein deutscher Terrorist (Niederlande), Dokumentarfilm, über den Ex-Terroristen Hans-Joachim Klein
  • 2006 – Ulrike Meinhof – Wege in den Terror (D), Dokumentarfilm (60 Min.), Portrait über Ulrike Meinhof, gesendet von den ARD am 31. August 2006
  • 2007 – Die RAF (D), zweiteiliger Dokumentarfilm, Der Krieg der Bürgerkinder und Der Herbst des Terrors von Stefan Aust und Helmar Büchel, ARD, 09./10. September 2007
  • 2008 – Der Baader Meinhof Komplex (D), Spielfilm, Drama, Regie: Uli Edel


The work of a special bomb... CIA-assassin wet-job!

Alfred Herrhausen (30 January 1930 - 30 November 1989) was a German banker and Chairman of Deutsche Bank. From 1971 onwards he was a member of the bank's board of directors.

Herrhausen fell victim to a sophisticated roadside bomb shortly after leaving his home in Bad Homburg on 30 November 1989. He was being chauffeured to work in his armoured Mercedes-Benz, with bodyguards in both a lead vehicle and another following behind. The bomb had been hidden in a saddle bag on a bicycle next to the road that the assassins knew Herrhausen would be traveling in his three-car convoy. In the bag was a 20 kg bomb that was detonated when Herrhausen's car interrupted a beam of infrared light as it passed the bicycle. The bomb and its triggering mechanism were quite sophisticated. The bomb targeted the most vulnerable area of Herrhausen's car—the door where he was sitting—and required split-second timing to overcome the car's special armour plating. The bomb utilized a Misznay-Schardin mechanism. A copper plate, placed between the explosive and the target, was deformed and projected by the force of the explosion. It is unlikely that this improvised explosive device had the precise engineering required to form the liner into a more effective slug or "carrot" shape (as in a shaped charge or an EFP)[citation needed] but in any case, the detonation resulted in a mass of copper being projected toward the car at a speed of nearly two kilometers per second, effectively penetrating the armoured Mercedes. Herrhausen's legs were severed and he bled to death.

No one has ever been charged with the murder. For a long time, the German federal prosecutor office listed Andrea Klump and Christoph Seidler of the Red Army Faction as the only suspects. The Federal Criminal Police Office (Germany) presented a chief witness Siegfried Nonne who later retracted his statements in which he claimed to have sheltered four terrorists in his home. His half-brother Hugo Föller (died 23 January 1992) furthermore declared that no other persons had been at the flat at the time. German Television on 1. July 1992 broadcast Nonne's explanations how he was coached and threatened by the Verfassungsschutz, the German internal intelligence agency, to become the main witness. In 2004 the federal prosecutor dropped the charges against the Red Army Faction; the investigation was to continue without naming a suspect.

debt cancellation and reorganisation of the world's financial system at the Some months before his violent death, Herrhausen is reported to have advocated Third WorldWorld Bank meeting in Washington, D.C. In his position as the chairman of one of the most powerful banks in the world, his insistence would have been influential.

The award-winning German documentary movie of 2001 Black Box Germany retells the lives and deaths of Alfred Herrhausen and Wolfgang Grams, a radical activist (who was a major suspect in the attack on Herrhausen).

William Engdahl. A Century of War:Anglo-American Oil Politics and the New World Order.Pluto Books.2005


15 July 1971 -- 3000 heavily armed police, helicopters on the roads ... Petra Schelm is shot in the head by a police sharpshooter, police claims that she was armed but no proof was produced. Police confused her with Ulrike Meinhof and shot dead the 20-year old girl. The official CIA-Spiegel falsification of history is here (german).

Werner Hoppe who was with her in the car later got 10 years for attempted manslaughter. He shot only 2 bullets. Witnesses heard dozens of shots. Police were out to kill in their CIA-media induced frenzy.

The hecht is the German word for a pike. As police knew the searched anarchists are inspired by Che Guevarras ideology such as " to swim among the ( in Latin america:poor) population like a "fish in the water", they invent the term "operation Hecht" to bite these fishes. First Germany wide police (overre-) action(?) against the Baader Meinhof gang. One year later followed the operation " water blow"
First "nervous breakdown" had again the police, when they shot Petra Schelm. On July, 15th, 1971, she broke Germany with her friend Hoppe through a police barrier.

The official report tells then , both jumped out of the car, shot at the police, while they ran off. After a while, they seperated from each other. Hoppe was said to have escaped, other reports claim, he was catched by policemen already an immediately in the near. On der run, Petra Schelm came to a road, where policemen were. On the "call to stop- so police claimed later- she shot on them" ( while running) A sharp shooter killed her by a shot directly into her left eye. Her story remains very contraversial, as the police offered at least a " very small" photo with the dying Schelm, but there was not any weapon in her near nor on the photograph which must have at least fallen then out of her hands, near to the place where she died. 10 minutes no help was ordered.


Petra Schelms

1971 - Jul 15 - At the first larger sweep search against the Red Army Faction, 'Operation Cora', Petra Schelm is killed and Werner Hoppe is arrested in Hamburg.


Police even thought, she was Ulrike Meinhof One hour later, dpa proudly but falsely announced that the searched terrorist Meinhof would be dead., It made the whole case even stranger than it was already.


Alfred Herrhausen:

Terrorist Victim?

By Michael D. Morrissey June 1990

The murder of Alfred Herrhausen, chairman of West Germany's Deutsche Bank, on November 30,1989, has been treated as an open-and-shut case by the media on both sides of the Atlantic. The Red Army Faction (RAF) did it.

It is difficult to question this foregone conclusion 'without seeming to defend a terrorist group which has been the German Public Enemy Number One for 16 years. But the evidence is thin consisting primarily of a note of confession found at the scene of the bombing, along with a letter written a month before by an imprisoned RAF leader and intercepted by German authorities. According to Das Spiegel (December 4,1989), it says, "We must orient ourselves to a new phase of the struggle" and "strike at the mechanism which makes everything worse"

As head of the biggest German bank, Herrhausen was certainly a key figure in the "mechanism," and after the opening of the border on November 9, and of Eastern Europe in general, he was in a particularly powerful position to influence these massive changes Shortly before his death, he announced Deutsches Bank's purchase of the British investment bank Morgan Grenfell for 17 billion marks, which Spiegel says "the most important strategic decision of the Deutsche flank since World War II," giving them a bridgehead in London, stir' the most important European center for international banking.

Herrhausen was not only powerful; he was perhaps the most progressive banker around. He had ideas which were sensible and realistic, but much too radical for some Furthermore, he was charismatic, attractive, articulate, and outspoken all of which adds up to a man who could have made a difference, such men, for darker minds are dangerous. We Americans know what happens to charismatic harbingers of change - they get shot, - according to the "lone nut" theory of history (which began with the Warren Report), All of this violence is senseless," but most of us know by now that the world makes more sense than the mass media would have us believe.

Spiegel is not the worst German newsweekly (there is considerable competition), but it is not surprising to read the most important aspect of the packaged story buried on the ninth page:

Some of the things Herrhausen said and did do not fit in the simple leftist image or the ugly capitalist enemy

For example, he was the first prominent western banker to propose publicly, two years ago " that the debt crisis in the Third World could not be solved without a partial waiver of claims by the western creditor Banks. This was also clear at the time to most other heads of banks, but they would have preferred to keep it to themselves a while longer.

Herrhausen supported the strategy of debt reduction, as posed to refinancing ("fresh money"), strongly and constantly. His derailed proposal was published in the German financial newspaper HairdeIsbiart on June 6th, 1989 and repeated in a presentation to the annual meeting of the World Bank and International Monetary Fund in Washington on September 25, 1989. In the latter he remarked: "Mr. Reed, speaking for Citi-bank, has said they are a "New money" bank. I can tell you that the Deutsche Bank is a "debt reduction bank". ln the same speech, he pointed out that a major obstacle to his proposed debt reduction strategy is that Japanese and American banks would find it more difficult than their European counterparts to compensate partially for their losses through tax adjustments.

The New York Times, December 8th 1989, printed portions of a speech which Herrhausen was to have given in New York on December 4th at the American Council on Germany. The entire speech was published in German on the same day in Die Zeit. The comparison is revealing.

The original manuscript is in English (a complete copy of which I obtained from the Deutsche Bank), and the title is "New Horizons in Europe."

The Times excerpt, about half the original is entitled "Towards a Unified Germany", which grossly mis-represents the thrust of the speech. It is clear to who reads even what the Times printed. This Herrhausen was not pleading for unification. In fact, he was refreshingly cautious on this point, in contrast to the increasingly strident media campaign Germans east and West have been subjected to in the past few months. He said that if the East Germans decide to join the West, fine, but "at this point" the question is still very much an open question. (This sentence was omitted in the Times).

Secondly, such an endeavor would be a difficult and certainly a long process in view of the large economic and social differences that exist today."

Although Henry Kissinger appeared on German television at around the same time predicting unification within five years, Herrhausen was figuring on about ten years. The following paragraph, although it comes in the middle of a portion printed by the Times, was omitted:

Of course, the process transforming a socialist society into a capitalistic one could and should be managed in stages and it should be closely coordinated with price and currency reform. Price, currency and property reform would mean profound changes throughout society in Eastern Germany. Many people in the East, including some of the leaders or the present opposition groups, are already worried about the social costs of such adjustment. The rewards would certainly nor accrue instantaneously. However, I am convinced that, given an adequate economic environment in the East and pertinent support by the West, the East German as well as the other Eastern economies could achieve impressive growth. I believe the GDR in particular could then catch up on the western standard of living in about ten years or so.

Andreas Baader, left, and Gudrun Ensslin joke during their trial in a courtroom in Frankfurt, Germany on Oct. 31, 1968.

Most importantly, the Times excerpt completely omitted Herrhausen's discussion of the same proposals for debt reduction and in-country development banks, which he had made to the World flank and IMF in September. These proposals, coming from a man in his position, were surely the most newsworthy items in the speech why did the Times find them unfit to print? Herrhausen refers here to Poland, but the same could apply to other highly indebted countries:

In the past, the banks have agreed to regular rescheduling, but now the onus is on government lenders assembled in the Paris Club [committee representing creditor nations that meets in Paris to deal with debt problems of individual countries to come up with a helpful contribution. They account for roughly two thirds of the county's external debt. If there is to he a permanent solution, this will require enlarging the strategies hitherto adopted to include a reduction of debt or debt service.

As an alternative to the European Development flank proposed by France, Herrhausen proposed the establishment of a development bank in Warsaw to bundle incoming aid and deploy it in accordance with strict efficiency criteria. Such an "Institute for Economic Renewal," as he called it, would help channel western aid and monitor its efficient use. The Institute," he said' "could play a constructive role in economic reform. Similar institutions could, of course, be established for other countries."

These are eminently reasonable ideas, but it is not hard to imagine that they would encounter powerful opposition. No matter how you put it, for the creditors debt reduction means giving away money. And of course it more sense to put the lending bank "on tile Spot," since this would keep the repaid capital and interest in the country where it is needed. This is not the way the big international banks make money, however.

Alfred Herrhausen may have been a terrorist victim, as the media seem determined to have us believe (and now forget).

The question is who are the terrorists?

Michael D. Morrissey teaches at Kessel University.

From: G. Wisnewski
Subject: Investigation of Herrhausen/Kennedy-Assassination

Dear Mr. Prouty,

I am member of a journalist team that was investigating the assassination of Alfred Herrhausen and others by the socalled Red Army Faction in Germany. By that way we learned about an appendix of an american army "Field Manual 30-31". This appendix contained detailed informations and advice how a terror group could be influenced and directed by military agents. The paper was dated Nov 8, 1970 and was signed by W.C. Westmoreland, JCS.

Can you tell me whether this document is authentic?

Did US-services infiltrate f.e european left and reight wing extreme and terror groups? Did those agents built special operations groups among the socalled "insurgents" for performing violent acts? What was/is the role of the JCS in the assassinations of JFK, Herrhausen and others? Is the JCS the "power centre" of wich you spoke on several occasions? Do you see any possibility to help us with our investigations?

Many thanks so far,
Gerhard Wisnewski

-------------------------------- Reply From Col. Prouty

a) I have done a lot of work on the Herrhausen murder and will enclose a brief item written by a friend of mine. We had corresponded on the subject, and my ideas agree with his. There is much more that could be said. I am enclosing a copy of Prof. Morressey's article. I possess a complete copy of the speech Herrhausen was going to deliver in New York City as the Arthur Burns Memorial Lecture on Dec 4, 1989 less than a week after his murder in Germany. It is a most important bit of writing. You should look in the files of that period for the article published by the New York Times that widely altered the speech for its own purposes. This act by a leading newspaper deserves much research and study.

b) Before I respond about the U.S. Army Field Manual 30-31, let me say that the most important one you can get today is the one used at the "U.S. Army school of the Americas: Teaching Terror." This has been recently made the subject of an important article in the Columbian magazine "Columbia Bulletin" which can be contacted as follows:

Columbia Bulletin c/o/CSN
P.O. Box 1505
Madison, WI 53701
Tel: (608)257-8753 FAX: (606) 255-6621.

c) As for military Field Manuals today, I have been retired since 1963 and most of the ones I knew so well have been significantly revised. However you can get a fine book on the market: "LOW INTENSITY WARFARE" by Michael T. Klare and Peter Kornbluh. It has three pages of bibliography and much of the books mentioned are Field Manuals or the equivalent. I had been the Director of Special Operations during 1962-1963 with the Joint staff, and am not familiar with the Gen. Westmoreland manual you mention. My boss was Gen. Victor H. Krulak of the U.S. Marine Corps.

d) You may be quite certain that U.S. military elements did infiltrate European units during and after WW II. Of course this was an assigned task of the 0SS and then the CIA in those times. U.S. Army Special Forces were in Europe then in a classified mission that was much different than that of todays' Special Forces.

e) I do not believe that the Jas had any role in the assassination of either JFK or of Herrhausen. That role is assigned otherwise to highly skilled anonymous units purely as a technical function. Their orders come from other sources. Just re-consider carefully what happened, or did not happen in Dallas on the day JFK was killed. There's where the clues are and none of them involve Lee Oswald, and the others of that "Cover Story" scenario that still lives.

f) The JCS in not a "power cadre" in the sense you use it. Their role is the defense of this country, when properly ordered to do so by higher authority.

g) All highest level power groups, whether nations or other centers of the highest power maintain the capability to assassinate selected individuals when they feel it is necessary. This capability is somewhat similar to what our society maintains under the name of an "executioner", "hangman", or other. From that perspective it is a fundamental task of the source of power.

It is too bad that the three-decade old "Cover Story" of the Kennedy assassination has been permitted to spread its sordid scenario for so long. Too many people now believe that contrived story which certainly is totally untrue.

I have no way to address your mention of "the so-called Red Army Faction in Germany" other than what I have acquired through incidental reading. The Herrhausen case, like the Kennedy case should be thoroughly and properly investigated by unbiased authority.

Thank you for your important questions:

L. Fletcher Prouty

BMW - Baader-Meinhof Wagen, hehe.

On October 17, a West German anti-terrorist commando stormed the airliner in Mogadishu, killing three guerillas and wounding the fourth. The next morning it was announced that Gudrun Ensslin and Andreas Baader were dead, having allegedly committed suicide. It was also announced that Jan-Carl Raspe and fellow RAF prisoner Irmgard Möller had “attempted suicide.” Raspe subsequently died of his wounds.

An examination of the contradictions surrounding the alleged “suicides” of Gudrun Ensslin, Jan-Carl Raspe, and Andreas Baader, contradictions no less numerous than in the case of Ulrike Meinhof’s death, tends to support the conclusion that the deaths were in fact murders.

Baader and Raspe died as a result of gunshot wounds, Ensslin as a result of hanging, and the sole survivor, Irmgard Möller, suffered repeated stab wounds inflicted with a kitchen knife.

As the two men were alleged to have shot themselves, some explanation as to where the guns had come from was necessary. Remember: the four had all been kept in complete isolation since Schleyer had been taken hostage, and had been in prison under strict conditions for years before that.

On October 27, a spokesperson for the administration at Stammheim offered the necessary explanation. He stated that it is “not out of the question ... that one of prisoners’ lawyers passed the contraband articles to a prisoner during a visit.”

Yet, such a thing does seem in fact to be “out of the question,” if not flatly impossible. Before entering the visiting area, lawyers had to empty their pockets and give their jackets to an employee for verification; they were body searched physically and with a metal detector. Prisoners were strip searched and inspected and given a new set of clothes both when entering and when leaving visits with lawyers. Further, due to the Kontaktsperre, the lawyers had been unable to see their clients after September 6.

As regards Andreas Baader, a plethora of other irregularities are apparent. Baader is supposed to have shot himself in the base of the neck in such a way that the bullet exited his forehead. Repeated tests indicated that it is virtually impossible for an individual to position a gun against his or her own body in such a way. Equally curious, there were three bullet holes in the cell. One bullet lodged in the wall, one in the mattress, and the third, the cause of death, lodged in the floor. Are we to presume Baader missed himself twice? As well, Baader had powder burns from the recoil on his right hand. Baader, however, was left-handed, and would almost certainly have used his left hand to shoot himself. In the case of Raspe, no powder burns were found at all. Powder burns always occur when firing a weapon.

The gun smuggling theory relied very heavily on the testimony of Hans Joachim Dellwo, brother of RAF prisoner Karl-Heinz Dellwo, and Volker Speitel, the husband of RAF member Angelika Speitel. They had both been arrested on October 2,1977 and charged with belonging to a criminal association.

Under police pressure, both men would later admit to acting as couriers for the guerilla, and testify that they were aware of lawyers smuggling items to the prisoners during the Stammheim trial which had ended in April 1977 – specifically they eventually claimed that guns had been smuggled in. The scenario put forth by the state was that these guns were then hidden away in the walls of the cells as work was done renovating the seventh floor that summer.

Yet Speitel and Dellwo’s testimony was tainted by the fact that they provided it in order to avoid lengthy stays behind bars. In exchange for these allegations they each received reduced sentences and new identities. As a result of their testimony, two defense attorneys would be tried and convicted of weapon smuggling in 1979.

As well as conveniently explaining the deaths, the gun smuggling story served two further purposes. From that point on, all lawyers’ visits with RAF prisoners were through a screen, a process which allows greater ease of auditory surveillance, as well as depriving the prisoners of one of their last direct human contacts. Furthermore, the guards were permitted, from that point on, to look through lawyers’ files “to prevent smuggling.”

In the case of Gudrun Ensslin’s “suicide” there were further contradictions. The chair she allegedly used to hang herself was too far away from her body to have been used and the cable supporting her body would not likely have tolerated the weight of a falling body. As was the case with Ulrike Meinhof, the histamine test that would have established whether Ensslin was dead before she was hanged was never undertaken.

In search of an explanation for this mass suicide, the state suggested that the prisoners realized there was no hope for their liberation following the storming of the hijacked airliner in Mogidishu and consequently chose mass suicide rather than life imprisonment. This explanation raises two questions. How would the prisoners, given the Kontaktsperre, have known about these developments? And, further, how would they have organized a group suicide under such conditions?

On October 20, authorities claimed to have “discovered” a radio in Raspe’s cell, a cell that he had only occupied since October 4 it should be noted. The state alleged that, using the wall sockets and tools stolen while the prison was being renovated, the prisoners constructed an elaborate communication system that allowed them to monitor the radio broadcasts and to communicate with each other.

This was only the first in a series of very useful “discoveries.” On October 22, two hundred and seventy grams of explosives were “discovered” in the prisoners’ wing. On November 12, a razor blade and three detonators were “found” in Baader’s cell. Finally, on December 12, a gun and ammunition were “found” in a cell formerly occupied by another RAF prisoner. It is worth noting that the gun in question was a Colt .38, the model used by special police units.

While the details of what happened that night may never be known, and the state’s story cannot be 100% disproven, even taken at face value all the state’s claims do not point to “simple suicide”: in the final analysis their own evidence suggests that if prisoners would have had access to guns and radios then someone in a position of authority would have known it. Author Stefan Aust, for instance, suggests that the prisoners may have been allowed to believe they had established a “secret” communication system so as that what they said to each other could be monitored. What emerges then is a picture of the prisoners being allowed to have weapons and being allowed to communicate with each other, and authorities listening in as a suicide pact was agreed upon and then acted on, all the while doing nothing to interfere (2) .

Yet one of the biggest problems with the suicide story, even in this form, is the fact that not all of the prisoners had died.

On October 27, Irmgard Möller, the only survivor from the alleged group suicide attempt, issued a statement claiming that she had NOT attempted suicide. She said that the last thing she heard before going to sleep on the night in question was two muffled explosive sounds. She was not aware of anything until she awoke some hours later feeling intoxicated and disoriented and having difficulty concentrating. She further stated that the prisoners had no contact with one another except by shouting through the air vents in their cells or when going by each other’s cells on the way to or from the yard. Finally, she said the prisoners had absolutely no idea of developments in Mogadishu.

To this day, she maintains that the prisoners were murdered.

It is difficult to dispute such a claim, coming as it does from a woman who survived these events.

Clearly, the prisoners had anticipated the possibility of murders disguised as suicides. On October 7 Andreas Baader sent his lawyer the following letter:

As a result of the measures of the last 6 weeks and a few remarks from the guards, one can draw the conclusion that the Administration of State Security, which - as a guard who is now permanently on the 7th floor has said - hopes to provoke one or more suicides here, or, in any case, create the plausible appearance of such. In this regard, I stress: None of us - this is clear from the few words that we have been able to exchange at the doors in the last few weeks and from the years of discussion - have the intention of killing ourselves. Should we - again a guard - “be found dead,” we have been killed, as is the procedure, in keeping with the tradition of legal and political measures here.(3)

Gudrun Ensslin had also written to her lawyers stating:
I am afraid of being suicided in the same way as Ulrike. If there is no letter from me and I’m found dead; in this case it is an assassination.(4)

at the funeral...

Furthermore, in conversation with two prison chaplains on the afternoon of October 17, Ensslin had explained that there were three sheets of paper kept in a file in her cell, containing important information. “They should be sent to the head of the Chancellery if they do away with me, or if I’m executed,” she said. “Please would you see that they get there? I’m afraid that otherwise the Federal Prosecutor will suppress or destroy them.”(5)

Needless to say, according to the official account, these three sheets of paper were never found.(6)

Although no independent international commission was ever formed to investigate the Stammheim deaths, the commission investigating the death of Ulrike Meinhof was still sitting at the time. They had several interesting comments. They noted that on both nights, May 8-9, 1976 and October 17-18, 1977, an auxiliary was in charge of surveillance rather than the usual person. They also noted that in both incidents the autopsies posed similar problems.

Regarding the incriminating evidence “turned up” by prison authorities during the cell searches, they approvingly quote from the press release of Irmgard Möller’s lawyer, Jutta Bahr-Jendgen, of October 25, 1977:

Why these inventories of the cells without neutral witnesses, without lawyers, these inventories which have produced receivers, radios, Morse code apparatuses, quantities of plastic explosives – might as well find atomic bombs?(7)
The Commission further noted the existence of an uncontrolled entrance to the seventh floor, which opened into the cell area, and which was not visible from the guard’s office. This entrance was not acknowledged by authorities until November 4, 1977. The Commission observes:

This indicates that - as citizens have been saying for some time - the functionaries of the BKA, the BND and the Secret Services have a constant, uncontrolled access to the cells.(8)

The cover-up was so glaring that the Frankfurter Rundschau, wrote, in reference to the official investigation:

The Parliamentary Commission is faced with ... three sorts of witnesses: those who know nothing, those who don’t want to know anything and those who aren’t allowed to make a statement.(9)
As a macabre postscript to all of this, RAF prisoner Ingrid Schubert was found hanged in her cell in Munich-Stadelheim prison on November 11, 1977. On the Thursday before her death, she had assured her lawyer that she had no intention of committing suicide. As in the case of Meinhof and Ensslin, the autopsy did not indicate the usual signs of death by hanging.(10)

Gudrun Ensslin, Andreas Baader,
Jan Carl Raspe and Ingrid Schubert:

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posted by u2r2h at Thursday, September 18, 2008


Blogger drvmmmer said...

hi!, are there any english subtitles for german documentary?...

Fri Sept 19, 03:37:00 pm UTC  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol you need to use language a little more subtle in your little propaganda blog here if you aim on convincing anyone who is not already sold on your views.

Wed Sept 24, 09:24:00 am UTC  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The person, who wrote this doesn't know a lot about German history - my recommendation - just go back to school and do something about your basic education.

Sat Oct 04, 04:29:00 pm UTC  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very nice page!
How about english subtitles for now?

Sat Oct 04, 11:56:00 pm UTC  

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