17 August, 2007

911 Theodolite Battery Park - third page

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Re: Battery Park Michael Hezarkhani CNN video of impact of ghostplane UA175 into south WTC tower of World Trade Center

"WTC vom Battery Park"
Side-on view
possible of interest

Views from WTC down to Battery Park over top of 19west and WhitehallAnnex
If you can feed this photo into virtual-reality-software,
you can place yourself ON THE VECTOR:
NYC - WTC - 2001-08 - Verrazano-Narrows Bridge (115)
This photo could also explain the "moving bridge"... What fantastic
optics can make the WTC AND THE BRIDGE that is that far away appear
sort-of equally large? HOMEWORK: take a screenshot and triangulate
from known size of bridge (span-of-elements) and width-of-wtc
the approx distance of the camera = position of wescam helicopter.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/boysy/6950245/ from ellis island

circle line
Castle Clinton with Ferry!

Whitehall-Building (with scaffold, unlike Hezarkane video)
Whithall Building with Annex and 19 west street
toward the ferry-boat landing with trees and lamps
Miss Liberty Ferry boat to Ellis Island
BatteryPark Trees 1995 South Street Pier Ellis Island ship-landing

I am exhausted... you can try finding more (put good links into forums or my comments)

Executive Summary:
We are trying to confirm the camera-location of the famous video of the 911-airplane that crashed into the 2nd tower.

GAP vs BOAT LENGTH calculations

We have a close-up of "THE GAP"

From the close-up we need to guess the size in feet
of the visual gap between 19west (@facade-front) and wtc2

Lets say 15feet

We substract some OVERLAP in the Hezarkhani Video
Hard to tell, the sharpest image is at the bottom of

Lets say 5 feet. That leaves 10 feet.

Then we have the approximate distances

WTC to ferry 3300 feet
19west to wtc 1900 feet

Now we have a triangle with three known sides,
1900 x 1900 x 10

- push the Degrees button
- push the 1) 3 Sides button

we get 0.3 degrees (zero point three)

Now we enter this angle for the triangle
boat2wtc -- angle -- boat2wtc

INPUT SIDE a >>>> 3300
INPUT ANGLE C >>>> 0.3
INPUT SIDE b >>>> 3300

we get 17 feet!! That is realistic on a boat.


Carmen Taylor Michael Hezarkhani photo footage of WTC impact UA 175 wtc2

The distance measuring tool in Google Maps
measures the width of the "top-box" of 19west as 30 feet

This time I counted the pixel.


21pixel/30feet = 1.428 pixel per foot (21 divided by 30)
therefore 10 pixel is 14.28 feet

124 pixel/30 feet = 4.133pixel per foot.
therefore 102 pixels is 24.67 feet

So the difference between Michael and Carmen is
24.67 minus 14.28 feet = 10.39 feet

Now the distance from 19West to WTC2
On Google satellite I made a marked on what seemed to
me vertically down to street level,
Estimated where the left corner of the WTC facade
would have been... and I got 1716 feet

The distance from the boat to WTC2 was 3156 feet

The angle turned out to be
0.347 degrees

19 feet !!!!

What did I establish?
That they were on the same boat!

Now the trees

Yey! Carmen took a wide shot WITH TREES

Where did the Carmen photos come from?

File dates are KEPT INTACT when you download with
wget -N http://blabla.bla/bla.jpg

TABBY file dates as on the server
25020 2001-09-11 20:48:33 +0000 mvc-008s.jpg
42536 2001-09-11 20:48:34 +0000 mvc-009s.jpg same
43194 2001-09-11 20:48:34 +0000 mvc-011s.jpg same
36755 2001-09-11 20:48:34 +0000 mvc-012s.jpg same
25939 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-017s.jpg
19008 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-018s.jpg
32106 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-019s.jpg
26481 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-020s.jpg same
26644 2001-09-11 20:48:36 +0000 mvc-024s.jpg same
44296 2001-09-11 20:48:36 +0000 mvc-026s.jpg same
33913 2001-09-11 20:48:36 +0000 mvc-027s.jpg
71174 2001-09-11 20:48:37 +0000 mvc-029s.jpg same

mikescomputerinfo.com probably edited the pictures.
His files are dated 29jul2002 23:58 GMT on the server,
"same" have identical dates with tabby:
tabby file-dates as 2001-09-11 20:48:33 GMT = 16:48 NY time

according to http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/wfryer/911/
he got the photos 11 Sep 2001 16:43:41 -0500 (17:43 NY time -0400)
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posted by u2r2h at Friday, August 17, 2007


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you establish that they were on the same boat or that they used the same software package?

Look at the 9/11 videos. Is there a boat in the water for them to be on?

If you analyze the video frame-by-frame, you'll see that it wasn't shot from any particular location with a camera. Cameras don't do still panning by themselves.

Fri Aug 17, 12:33:00 pm UTC  

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