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THIRD PAGE
Re: Battery Park Michael Hezarkhani CNN video of impact of ghostplane UA175 into south WTC tower of World Trade Center


"WTC vom Battery Park"
http://www.flickr.com/photos/annode/253514158/
Side-on view
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gundust/300179934/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gundust/300182591/in/set-72157594384254025/
possible of interest
http://www.flickr.com/photos/chascarper/409101655/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15633834@N00/67205072/

Views from WTC down to Battery Park over top of 19west and WhitehallAnnex
If you can feed this photo into virtual-reality-software,
you can place yourself ON THE VECTOR:
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=686327933&size=o
NYC - WTC - 2001-08 - Verrazano-Narrows Bridge (115)
http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=67197529&context=photostream&size=o
This photo could also explain the "moving bridge"... What fantastic
optics can make the WTC AND THE BRIDGE that is that far away appear
sort-of equally large? HOMEWORK: take a screenshot and triangulate
from known size of bridge (span-of-elements) and width-of-wtc
the approx distance of the camera = position of wescam helicopter.

http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=776443230&size=o
http://www.flickr.com/photos/15633834@N00/67205072/in/photostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/boysy/6950245/ from ellis island

circle line
http://www.flickr.com/photos/redxdress/95995966/
Castle Clinton with Ferry!

Whitehall-Building (with scaffold, unlike Hezarkane video)
Whithall Building with Annex and 19 west street
toward the ferry-boat landing with trees and lamps
Miss Liberty Ferry boat to Ellis Island
BatteryPark Trees 1995 South Street Pier Ellis Island ship-landing

I am exhausted... you can try finding more (put good links into forums or my comments)

Executive Summary:
We are trying to confirm the camera-location of the famous video of the 911-airplane that crashed into the 2nd tower.

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GAP vs BOAT LENGTH calculations

We have a close-up of "THE GAP"
http://mikescomputerinfo.com/picstragedy1.htm
http://mikescomputerinfo.com/images/wtcimages/wtc5.jpg
http://mikescomputerinfo.com/images/wtcimages/wtc6.jpg


From the close-up we need to guess the size in feet
of the visual gap between 19west (@facade-front) and wtc2

Lets say 15feet

We substract some OVERLAP in the Hezarkhani Video
Hard to tell, the sharpest image is at the bottom of
http://www.911research.dsl.pipex.com/ggua175/hezarkhani/

Lets say 5 feet. That leaves 10 feet.

Then we have the approximate distances

WTC to ferry 3300 feet
19west to wtc 1900 feet


Now we have a triangle with three known sides,
1900 x 1900 x 10

http://www.1728.com/trig4.htm
- push the Degrees button
- push the 1) 3 Sides button

we get 0.3 degrees (zero point three)

Now we enter this angle for the triangle
boat2wtc -- angle -- boat2wtc

INPUT SIDE a >>>> 3300
INPUT ANGLE C >>>> 0.3
INPUT SIDE b >>>> 3300

we get 17 feet!! That is realistic on a boat.

LETS DO IT MORE PRECISE.




The distance measuring tool in Google Maps
measures the width of the "top-box" of 19west as 30 feet

This time I counted the pixel.

21:10

21pixel/30feet = 1.428 pixel per foot (21 divided by 30)
therefore 10 pixel is 14.28 feet

124 pixel/30 feet = 4.133pixel per foot.
therefore 102 pixels is 24.67 feet

So the difference between Michael and Carmen is
24.67 minus 14.28 feet = 10.39 feet

Now the distance from 19West to WTC2
On Google satellite I made a marked on what seemed to
me vertically down to street level,
Estimated where the left corner of the WTC facade
would have been... and I got 1716 feet

The distance from the boat to WTC2 was 3156 feet


The angle turned out to be
0.347 degrees

19 feet !!!!

What did I establish?
That they were on the same boat!


Now the trees

Yey! Carmen took a wide shot WITH TREES
http://mikescomputerinfo.com/images/wtcimages/wtc8.JPG

Where did the Carmen photos come from?

File dates are KEPT INTACT when you download with
wget -N http://blabla.bla/bla.jpg
http://www.google.com/search?q=download+wget.exe

TABBY file dates as on the server
25020 2001-09-11 20:48:33 +0000 mvc-008s.jpg
42536 2001-09-11 20:48:34 +0000 mvc-009s.jpg same
43194 2001-09-11 20:48:34 +0000 mvc-011s.jpg same
36755 2001-09-11 20:48:34 +0000 mvc-012s.jpg same
25939 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-017s.jpg
19008 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-018s.jpg
32106 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-019s.jpg
26481 2001-09-11 20:48:35 +0000 mvc-020s.jpg same
26644 2001-09-11 20:48:36 +0000 mvc-024s.jpg same
44296 2001-09-11 20:48:36 +0000 mvc-026s.jpg same
33913 2001-09-11 20:48:36 +0000 mvc-027s.jpg
71174 2001-09-11 20:48:37 +0000 mvc-029s.jpg same

mikescomputerinfo.com probably edited the pictures.
His files are dated 29jul2002 23:58 GMT on the server,
"same" have identical dates with tabby:
www.mirrors.org/historical/2001-09-11-World-Trade_Center/wtc/tabby/
tabby file-dates as 2001-09-11 20:48:33 GMT = 16:48 NY time

according to http://webpages.acs.ttu.edu/wfryer/911/
he got the photos 11 Sep 2001 16:43:41 -0500 (17:43 NY time -0400)