13 September, 2007

September Clues 8 - background chopped choppers

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September Clues 8

A must see.


Dear fellow truthseekers,

I keep telling myself to stay out of many discussions not to look someone who is selling a theory for want of fame and glory. But then I’m only human – so here I am again, in this forum which I thought could help me refine my lacking aeronautical knowledge – such as maneuvering jumbo planes and their break-up speed limit at near ground level that I’ve heard of (mostly from a close friend, a 747 captain who flies across the Atlantic regularly – a staunch no-planer I should say).

I have taken utmost care in my September Clues research, in instances which don’t allow me 100% certainty, to keep options open for further study and interpretation. I’m sad and sorry if that caution comes across as ‘seductive’, or as spreading ‘innuendoes’.


In September clues part 8 I chose to show 8 still pictures (but there are more) of flight 175, all of them just about to hit with the towers nicely focused, aligned and devoid of any motion blur. The very occurrence of about a dozen photographers catching that exact moment in time, both plane and towers in the picture and all up to publication standards is already an extraordinary coincidence.

I mentioned I’ve been working many years in motorsport (Formula 1) where you’ll have hundreds of professionals (in arenas holding up to 500.000 spectators) and eager amateur photographers aiming at the action at every event. If an accident happens (like that lucky shot I took of a racing car somersaulting towards me – almost beheading me…) there will never be more than 1 or 2 photographers (hardly ever an amateur) who will strike lucky and snap a shot decent enough for publication.

In the case of flight 175, we are talking about an object travelling almost 3 times as fast as any crashing Formula 1 car. It is beyond any statistical odds that a dozen (mostly amateur) photographers caught that second or less before 175 hit the tower – let alone with a borrowed digital camera with no adequate zoom capacity such as Carmen Taylor’s.


I’m slightly amazed at the lack of interest of my cross-examination (many long hours of back-to-back comparisons, believe me) of the chopper fly-overs on every tv network. I think anyone with the slightest cognitive capacity should, at the very least, question why almost every single chopper on these broadcasts just flies across the screen – left/right or right/left., at a sustained rate of speed.

Once I noticed that, I aligned several pairs of broadcasts ( synched on the flght 175 impact) to see if they were duly present on all channels (given similar viewing angles, of course). On MOST occasions (I chose to show only 6 or 7) you have a chopper zapping by on one channel and not on the other. It is my utmost conviction now that they are 2D insertions/overlays to make up for the chroma-key compositing needed to obscure any of the ‘air-traffic’ over Manhattan that morning.

The chopper / no chopper back-to-back analysis may be unspectacular proof of the overwhelming evidence of image fakery, but it is certainly just as damning as that 3D Hezarkhani plane melting into the tower like cheesecake.


This is my favourite from September Clues part 8. I need not say much here – and I understand why it’s being avoided on this thread by Bone Z and the like :


Bye for now




I assume that at every single level of this thing, from day one going forward that there are perps in the woodwork- in fact they are, they'd be crazy not to.

I say they WOULD BE CRAZY to. Think about it. The whole 911 was about compartmentalized knowledge and deception. A perp coming into forums would be negating that. Even a "paid perp agent" is a danger for the master-plan, (s)he could wise-up and get angry over the mass-murder and change her/his mind.

Think about it! Weigh the pros and cons.

Pro: They can stop the truth from getting out. (If the master-plan needed damage-control on 911CT-forum level, they'd be in the shit long ago!)
Cons: OH DEAR.. I can image a few scenarious where perp-shill activity in forums could backfire. You can, too, right?

My guess is that there are NO SHILLS ANYWHERE in the forums, just incredibly ignorant people. I don't even think the perps are montoring the forums, its just too dangerous to get caught.

At every stage there is always someone who is "on board" with the theory of the day, carefully ingratiating themselves but always steering the topic into manageable territory. When it was the first people to question hijackers, they were the LIHOP crowd telling us about mohamad atta's flying circus, when it became apparent that it was a deliberate destruction it was the MIHOP crowd and cd- every step of the way has been carefully illuminated at just the right spot by just the right person, like going through Disney World's Haunted Mansion led by the guide. They dress the part and act all frightened and part of the scene, but in reality they are just everyday schulbs doing what they have to do to earn the paycheck

IMO you are presuming an "invisible hand" which IMHO is just "human nature", i.e. people being timid and not allowing themselves to think out-of-the-box.

They probably joke with their friends at the gullibility of the poor idiots who engage them, hopelss optomists that we are.

It is probably the fear in your head that created this scenario.

billions of dollars on Netcentric Warfare shills

Oh webfairy... how sad. You really think that some of the billions are spent on
"frootlooping" to " hold back the tide of understanding"

What you call fruitlooping is probably simply stuff you don't like.
The tide of understanding is held back by ignorance, and old story.

Most are staged offshore, because what they are doing would be illegal in America.

You really think they care? What is illegal? PR agencies are perfectly legal in the USA. They lie and cheat all the time.

I think the real perps use better tricks than propaganda. They do Winning by failing

They are military. They admire Sun Tsu's Art of Warfare.

head of the snake

Joseph Keith is a retired 76-year-old software engineer who worked in the aerospace industry and just resigned from a professional group known as the Scientific Panel Investigating Nine Eleven (SPINE) founded by Canadian scientist, A.K. (“Kee”) Dewdney. The website is www.physics911.net. Curious about why he resigned (I’m still a SPINE member), I interviewed him from his home in southern California.
Q: Why did you resign from SPINE?
A: Well, I was a founding member in 2002 but I have little patience. With all the arguments I have gone through with Kee, I’ve spent so much time with Kee, it’s led nowhere. A plane never hit the second trade center tower, WTC 2, that’s what started our disagreement about 4 years ago.
Leonard Spencer first came out with what I thought was a smoking gun, the pod. I thought that pod must be a smoke screen device to hide the fact that a real airliner flew by but did not hit the building. And then editors doctored the tape after the fact.
Later on I decided the pod was a distraction since I determined that the video was fake. Case closed.
Q: Why is the video phony?
A: The video is phony because airliners don’t meld into steel and concrete buildings, they crash against them!
Q: Why would the establishment elite pull off a phony video?
A: The video had to be phony because the Illuminati, or whatever we want to call them, had to eliminate all possibilities of a foul up. They needed the hijacking scam to implicate the Muslims, but they couldn’t afford any risk. They had to Keep-It-Simple-Stupid so they faked the crashes.
Since we know that the rich will always hang together, have their children intermarry, and do anything to protect their wealth, they must have an organization, an interlocking directorate, if you will, that is compartmentalized. I could have done a better job, but they faked the video in an amateurish way. A friend of mine could have done a much better job of faking an airplane crash—break a wing off, break a part of the body, throw some fluff in and then I wouldn’t have noticed anything wrong.
Q: When did you realize something was amiss about 9/11?
A: I watched 9/11 on TV that day and my next-door neighbor is a pilot for SkyWest Airlines. We were good friends and when 9/11 happened I called up right away and said, “Turn on the TV.” He came over to my house. I said, “It’s fake.” “Yes, it’s fake,” he said. Later, we decided that the networks did not get the real-time feed of the crash and simulated it instead. In about a week we were convinced by neighbors that the networks were displaying the real thing. His wife is an American Airlines flight attendant and she’s very outspoken. Every 9/11 anniversary they put out a big display about praying for 9/11 flight attendants and all that. She thinks I’m a stupid conspiracy nut. Kee used to ask David, through me, airline questions, but now David is not allowed to talk to me. I don’t know if Kee is personally contacting him now.
Q: You knew right away it was an inside job because the WTC hit was faked?
A: I have spent lots of time trying to figure out how the New World Order could screw up so badly, and the only conclusion I can come to is that there must be some high-ranking insider, or possibly group, that is trying to warn the world of the danger of allowing such a powerful force to rule. In another era, the most powerful force in the World was the Holy Roman Empire and it was brought down by an insider who exposed the document that gave it its power as a fraud. I can’t go into the details now but it later led to the Reformation. I wrote a paper on it 50 years ago.
Q: You say anyone can prove the video is fake. How?
A: First get any video. They’re getting harder to find. A good example is “In Memoriam, New York City 9/11/01” from HBO, narrated by Rudy Giuliani, because the plane crashes at the beginning. Start the DVD and as the plane comes into view, hit the pause on your remote and then go frame-by-frame until the plane goes into the building, step by step.
Carefully watch the plane go into the building: it’s like a hot knife cutting through butter. Marvel at how a plane can meld into a steel-concrete building. A plane should crash against the building. It makes one curious! It should make you think about how a plane would enter a steel-concrete building.
Q: One argument we hear is that all the videos can’t be fake.
A: Well, get all 30 of ‘em and run ‘em, I have four. One of mine doesn’t show the actual crash, two of them show a plane banking, one doesn’t.
Every video that shows impact shows a plane flying through the tower wall the same way it flies through thin air: no cratering effect, no pushing parts of the building in, no crunching of the airframe as it hits resistance, no reaction from the heavy engines and hidden landing gear, no parts breaking off, no outer 30 feet of the wing breaking off, no bursting, shredding or bending of the wing. No nothing.
Q: Isn’t that impossible in reality?
A: Yes. Then after absorption of the plane, you see the building closing up and then an explosion. Meanwhile, nothing fell from either the building or the plane.
Q: That’s compelling evidence of video fakery. What else?
A: One more test is to pause with the plane on the screen. Take a magic marker or tape and mark the nose of the plane and then count frames until the tail passes the mark. You’ll find that the number of steps the plane takes while the plane is in thin air is the same as the number of steps the plane takes as it melds into the building.
Q: So there’s no deceleration?
A: Right. It violates all Newton’s laws of motion. I’ll state them:
1. An object at rest remains at rest and an object in motion remains in motion until a force is applied.
2. When a force is applied to an object, the object accelerates in the direction of the force. When an object in motion hits stationary resistance, the force acts in the opposite direction of the object and therefore the object decelerates.
3. Newton said, “For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction” but I say, every action produces an equal and opposite reaction.
Q: So, for example, a diver speeds through thin air but slows in the resistance of the water unless he has a new energy source to maintain speed.
A: Right. It’s like this TV show I was watching called Myth Busters. They dumped this dummy from 100 feet and it registered 16 G’s when it hit water. That can kill you, we can only take about 10 G’s. Then think about hitting steel and concrete.
Q: Believers in Boeing 767s hitting the twin towers always bring up kinetic energy as the big explanation for how an aluminum plane could fly right through the wall of a steel and concrete tower. Speed squared is supposed make us believe the plane-like outline of the holes in the towers.
A: The more kinetic energy, the more damage the speeding object will do when it hits, but they’re claiming that it punched right through. The plane should have continued right through the building like a bullet through paper. Sure, in the bullet case, little kinetic energy is lost. No plane deceleration also means the plane never lost kinetic energy. Victor Thorn and the others, even though they’re good on demolition and no plane at the Pentagon, are afraid to come out for the No Plane Theory (NPT).
When Jerry Longspaugh, an aerospace engineer and SPINE member, saw a photo of a hole in one of the towers and thought he saw the core, he wrote to Kee and me, “It looks like the NPT is true.” Maybe Kee said something to him, I don’t know.
Kee’s got to be a phony. He’s been saying how sorry he was about the hassle I’m suffering from the plane huggers. That kind of thing is not unusual in my life.
Q: Why won’t Kee do the video test?
A: His university won’t let him.
Q: But he’s done a lot exposing 9/11 lies like proving the cell phone calls were impossible.
A: Kee is allowed some freedom but NPT is the key to the kingdom. It would topple the kingdom, so he won’t go there. Physics911.net has this “What may have happened” and “What did not happen” and he won’t use ‘em. He won’t run your article. They have to have Arab hijackers, so they have to have airplanes.
Q: So do you believe there were no planes?
A: Logic tells me there were no airliners involved. They never showed any wreckage, the hole was empty, and the government showed a few parts but no serial numbers, no part numbers.
Q: The government could have crashed a plane, say, in Pennsylvania, by remote control.
A: Too many problems. Somebody could pick up a part with a serial number.
Q: What about the controversy over high-energy explosives at the WTC?
A: Well, I tend to agree with those who believe they were used but my problem has always been the video. It was fake and that was the end of it for me. Case closed!
Q: Is SPINE or Scholars for 911 Truth doing any good?
A: Absolutely not, they haven’t done anything for a couple of years. SPINE is defunct. In 2004, for example, I sent something by Gerard Holmgren against the plane huggers to Kee and nothing came of it. SPINE never puts up anything controversial so it is just safe stuff, orthodoxy now.
Q: Nila Sagadevan is a big defender of planes at the WTC.
A: When he joined SPINE I called him up because he lived in southern California and found he lived only 6-7 miles from me. We talked about going for a beer but when I got around to the NPT, he said that was nonsense. “My friend Greg Szymanski visited ground zero and reported a jet engine so I know a plane hit the bldg,” and he hung up. Nila has some weird beliefs and I forwarded an email from him to Kee and wrote, “Ask this guy if he’s ever interviewed an ET.” Nila wants to get on talk shows, peddle his weird beliefs, and he depends on the media to sell his books. Gurus are liars.
Q: Why is there such resistance to NPT?
A: NPT is a direct attack on the head of the snake. You can go after Bush, Cheney and that whole compartmentalized entity but not the head of the snake. NPT is the only thing that we have direct evidence of, so it is very threatening. The media control everything because they can point the finger at anybody. The media is the enforcement arm of the head of the snake that controls everything. It can topple any government. And NPT is direct proof of their enforcement of the 9/11 scam. It’s the propaganda arm of the ruling class and NPT would break it all open. They’d be done.



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Holographics IMHo are not possible. I wonder whether they had a huge number of agents that controlled every VIDEO filmer, because THINK ABOUT IT, only video can prove noplane. You see, if you take a photo of the explosion, well, the "plane" is already "in" (click here (search for HANDSCHUH)

If you take a photo of the tower without explosion, well, the "plane" has no yet arrived. So photos are not a problem.

As you can see in September Clues, VIDEOS (Bri and ???) were taken, but the instant that should show a plane was CUT OUT (.. but sound, sirens continue).

The Hezarkhani video was apprehended, so were all others. I thing EVERYONE who took video footage had his tape confiscated "to help find the terrorists, and forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement. Hezarkhani is to afraid to talk about it, like most others.

The psychology is important to mention in this respect. Just say Guantanamo!

Like german CONCENTRATION CAMPS, i.e. everyone knows, everyone is afraid, people are easier to rule, evidence easier to suppress. Only today the threats are more multimedia.

Back on topic:

Very few photos show incriminating things. I was able to save the David Thom photo showing the energy-weapon in action before it was take off the net. Another of his photo shows a jet fly-by.

Also, I now realise that the fireball that Patricia Ondrovic talked about
"I saw two other planes. One came in one way, and the other came in the other way, and there was a plane in the middle that was way far off in the distance. Then the plane in the middle just disappeared into a little fire ball. It looked like the size of a golf ball from where I could see it."
... may have been the same event that David Thom caught.

I am ready to believe that there were no planes but not without a better grasp of holographics during daylight and the fact that the associated sounds of jets were heard and recorded at the time of the strikes. How could the sounds have been done?

Have you watched September Clues? It shows the soundtrack of one of the videos strangly matching a internet-video tunnel-crash.
HERE is a 300meg RAR file that makes a Video CD of the first four parts, so you can watch it on the sofa with your mates.

The fact remains that only people at the VERY highest levels of our political/military/industrial bureaucracies could have pulled this off;

Correct! Let's NAME NAMES, shall we? Henry Hugh Shelton.

... while Poppa and the old time shadow govt. boys made sure that profts would flow and war would never end and the much anticipated war against the Muslims could commence, thereby fulfiling the mandates for the beginings of the religious scenarios that the Neocon right wing rapture crazy millenialists crave so desperately.

well observed. However any mention of religion is ALREADY a bumsteer.

John Hagee and his Israel worshipping sheep are beside themselves promoting strikes against anyone who will insure that the great Armageddon comes as soon as possible. They actually believe that all this evil they do is a necessary part of the end time scenarios and that they are the herald of the new man; the fact that they will get most of us killed in the process is nothing but a minor matter to them;' collateral damage ' is the price that WE pay for sleeping while our nation was highjacked by the Neocon/Israel maniacs; as long as Monday Night Football keeps playing, the average American drooler will never hear the clarion calls until they are beating down their own doors.

Wow, I actually had to look that up... I have moved to a peaceful country at the end of the world and miss out on the 160 TV channels that carry Hagee. Although I am sure his mind-control has arrived on our shores, too.

Fire and brimstone, huh? Fear, huh? Anti-enlightenment shit that we increasingly have to tolerate, mainly because our COUNTRY has been robbed of the means to make FREE SOCIAL INSTITUTIONS, because the corporatist system needs to kill its anti-thesis,l its competition.
If you had free japanese steam-baths and film-evenings in free super-modern public halls ... there would be no need to go to see hollywood crap or watch TV and we would be educated enough not to elect paid agents.

So please, even though it is counter-intuitive, please support politicians. They right ones have to be brave, they risk getting murdered if they do the right thing.

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